Taylor Swiftis sharing new details about heryears-long rocky relationshipwithKanye West.
In a new, wide-ranging interview withRolling Stone, the 29-year-old singer shared her side of the story, and gave new details about “the events that led up” to the infamous phone call where the two discussed the lyrics to West’s song “Famous.”
“The world didn’t understand the context and the events that led up to it,” Swift toldRolling Stoneof the phone call. “Because nothing ever just happens like that without some lead-up. Some events took place to cause me to be pissed off when [West] called me a bitch.”
“That was not just a singular event,” she continued. “Basically, I got really sick of the dynamic between he and I. And that wasn’t just based on what happened on that phone call and with that song — it was kind of a chain reaction of things.”
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“I started to feel like we reconnected, which felt great for me — because all I ever wanted my whole career after that thing happened in 2009 was for him to respect me,” she said. “When someone doesn’t respect you so loudly and says you literally don’t deserve to be here — I just so badly wanted that respect from him, and I hate that about myself, that I was like, ‘This guy who’s antagonizing me, I just want his approval.’ But that’s where I was.”
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The musician says she and West would “go to dinner and stuff” during that time period, and the rapper “would say really nice things” about her music.
Swift then alleged that, ahead of the 2015 VMAs, West — who she said “can be the sweetest” — called her to ask her to present him withthe Video Vanguard Awardat the upcoming awards show.
“I’m standing in the audience with my arm around his wife, and this chill ran through my body. I realized he is so two-faced,” Swift said. “That he wants to be nice to me behind the scenes, but then he wants to look cool, get up in front of everyone and talk s—.”
West sent her a “big, big thing of flowers” to apologize afterwards, and Swift toldRolling Stoneshe decided to move past their differences once again.
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“So when he gets on the phone with me, and I was so touched that he would be respectful and, like, tell me about this one line in the song,” Swift explained of the “Famous” phone call. “And I was like, ‘Okay, good. We’re back on good terms.’ And then when I heard the song, I was like, ‘I’m done with this. If you want to be on bad terms, let’s be on bad terms, but just be real about it.’”
Swift’s first album after the infamous phone call with West was 2017’sReputation, which featured the lyrics, “I’m sorry, the old Taylor can’t come to the phone right now. Why? ‘Cause she’s dead.”
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“There’s a part of me that definitely is always going to be different,” Swift said. “I needed to grow up in many ways. I needed to make boundaries, to figure out what was mine and what was the public’s. That old version of me that shares unfailingly and unblinkingly with a world that is probably not fit to be shared with? I think that’s gone.”
Of the lyrics, the musician said, “But it was definitely just, like, a fun moment in the studio with me andJack [Antonoff]where I wanted to play on the idea of a phone call — because that’s how all of this started, a stupid phone call I shouldn’t have picked up.”
Swift also described her roller-coaster last few years as feeling like she was “being completely pulled into a riptide.”
“So what are you going to do?” she asked. “Splash a lot? Or hold your breath and hope you somehow resurface? And that’s what I did. And it took three years.”
source: people.com
